tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post8885679343592587898..comments2013-02-03T23:12:39.560-06:00Comments on WeilWorks: Sharpening Stone QuestionAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16165303148974131900noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-83452422487477855692013-02-03T23:12:39.560-06:002013-02-03T23:12:39.560-06:00By all means Shapton, superior to the others you a...By all means Shapton, superior to the others you are considering. Your grit selections are spot on, too, though I would suggest you consider adding a 15,000 when funds permit for plane irons. <br /><br />I have fallen out of love with DMT plates as they are seldom remotely flat. If you will limit your diamond stone use to stones only then the Shapton diamond on glass plate is superb (though not for use with tools directly, ever). <br /><br />Any soft stone will serve poorly so please avoid the Norton's at all costs. They are far too soft for anything that needs to be kept truly flat. <br /><br />Best of luck.mattacmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837266189571625265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-75642257313736065812013-02-02T23:46:31.941-06:002013-02-02T23:46:31.941-06:00I have the DMT W8CXNB course/extra course 2-sided ...I have the DMT W8CXNB course/extra course 2-sided diamond stone I use for prepping rough edges and flattening my Norton water stones. The DMT stone works great. My Norton stones are 220, 1000, 4000 and 8000 grits, one grit per stone. I was considering changing to the Shaptons to hopefully reduce sharpening time and stone wear. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220921753938053844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-11198207668477022022013-02-01T00:18:23.721-06:002013-02-01T00:18:23.721-06:00HI Adam,
I think that any of the stones you are l...HI Adam,<br /><br />I think that any of the stones you are looking at can probably get you good results. If there is a way to try them first, do that and buy your favorite. Avoid spending money based on someone else's recommendation. Everyone gets results a little different due to their own technique.<br /><br />I would say to get the biggest stones you can afford, and also you can probably get by at first (as in the next 10-20 years) with a single combination stone. I like the Norton 1000/8000 stone. Plus your favorite way to keep it flat.<br /><br />I have a bit more to say about it on my blog.<br /><br />Brian Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252174035715635674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-22376775347635533322013-01-31T18:53:52.533-06:002013-01-31T18:53:52.533-06:00Adam - I use a combination of Norton water stones ...Adam - I use a combination of Norton water stones and DMT diamond plates for plane irons, chisels, spoke shave irons, drawknives, etc. I have the Veritas Mark something or other but really don't use it. Maybe I ought to sell that also. I also use the diamond plate (coarse) to flatten the water stones and I use a slow speed grinder to camber plane irons prior to honing.<br /><br />For turning tools I mostly use the slow speed grinder but I am about to experiment ala Peter Galbert, with honing these tools on water stones and diamond cones. I hope this helps rather than confuses. Stop by the blog sometime http://rivingsandshavings.blogspot.com Ray Schwanenbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15044622377753605626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-67242558365352719872013-01-31T18:45:07.819-06:002013-01-31T18:45:07.819-06:00I can be your Bester user in the wild. I use a 200...I can be your Bester user in the wild. I use a 2000 Bester and an 8000 Kitayama....if I need to take off more material than is practical with the 2000, I go to the grinder. And yes, I constantly cool it so it doesn't lose the temper.....but it's VERY rare I'm not just touching something up with the previous two stones. I use the DMT WM8CX 8-Inch DuoSharpplus Coarse/Extra-Coarse diamond stone to flatten. It was $64 from Amazon. I'm happy with them and the edge they give me, but I haven't tried others to say if I'm really missing out. <br /><br />If you can, order from Hida and support my local Japanese woodworking store. :)Chris Mildebrandthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11908646165746949089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-18183472227399005642013-01-31T18:31:18.588-06:002013-01-31T18:31:18.588-06:00I have the three Shapton stones that you mentioned...I have the three Shapton stones that you mentioned and I use the coarse Dia-sharp for flattening. I use the Veritas MK-II as my guide. I just used them yesterday on a brand new set of WoodRiver chisels. I love the set. I have about $370 in the stones and Dia-sharp. You are more than welcome to come over and check them out for yourself. I did the sandpaper on glass (actually still have that set up too if you want to try it) and I had no problems with that set up either. I only upgraded because I was able to afford it and flattening the stones is a little easier than changing sandpaper.thewoodninjahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00683689516910487759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-34181031501853680032013-01-31T16:45:48.561-06:002013-01-31T16:45:48.561-06:00Adam,
I actually use the Veritas Power sharpening ...Adam,<br />I actually use the Veritas Power sharpening system. That said, I've heard that the Shaptons, though expensive are well worth their cost and a good value over their lifespan.Dyami Plotkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048444158221648393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-54936471209113393882013-01-31T16:31:28.833-06:002013-01-31T16:31:28.833-06:00I have this Shapton Glass set: http://www.thewoodw...I have this Shapton Glass set: http://www.thewoodworkingsource.com/products/Shapton-Glass-Stone-Set-with-Field-Holder.html<br /><br />I very much love them! I use a DMT Course Dia-Sharp to flatten them but as soon as I can, I will be upgrading to the Shapton Lapping Plate because of how fast and flat it is.Scott Meekhttp://www.scottmeekwoodworks.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-67983489204194417962013-01-31T16:19:36.077-06:002013-01-31T16:19:36.077-06:00I've heard that some people are having problem...I've heard that some people are having problems posting comments. If Blogger is still denying you, please leave a comment in the post within the Google+ Modern Woodworkers Association Community page:<br />https://plus.google.com/communities/114798330177473012305<br /><br />Thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165303148974131900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-81941715859934272902013-01-31T16:19:19.370-06:002013-01-31T16:19:19.370-06:00Adam, I started out using sandpaper on glass. It&...Adam, I started out using sandpaper on glass. It's very inexpensive and effective. After I attended Lonnie Bird's school, I switched over to hollow grinding and Norton waterstones. Much more expensive, but it's easier to get a fresh edge and keep it. There are a billion ways to sharpen and all of the stones you mention will do the job well. Time to pick a team and play! Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07826832088718362900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-993503252690176002013-01-31T15:55:34.426-06:002013-01-31T15:55:34.426-06:00Thanks Ben. The Atoma 400 is pretty attractive bec...Thanks Ben. The Atoma 400 is pretty attractive because of the space for the slury. I'm constantly watching Wilbur's blog and often refer back to it when looking various things up. He's the one that 1st introduced me to the Atoma. I'll be sure to check out that link.<br />Thanks againAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165303148974131900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-28793783393996931212013-01-31T15:39:13.392-06:002013-01-31T15:39:13.392-06:00Sorry, meant to say I have that set WITH an atoma ...Sorry, meant to say I have that set WITH an atoma 400. It comes with.<br /><br />Also, the Atoma is great for flattening stones because of the space it has for the slurry. All of the DMT variants I've tried do not and get nailed by crazy suction when a finer stone gets flat. I have not tried the Dia-Flat though, supposedly it works better. <br /><br />Wilbur Pan also just wrote some things up over at http://giantcypress.net/post/41860013521/atoma-bombAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629772373033054526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557423386228181634.post-14049999332163248482013-01-31T15:36:50.473-06:002013-01-31T15:36:50.473-06:00Not to add fuel to the fire, but I have this set, ...Not to add fuel to the fire, but I have this set, plus an Atoma 400: http://www.toolsfromjapan.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=335_404_403&products_id=1667&zenid=e6c3ed3f8f4644689f97b5e77d56eede<br /><br />They're fantastic and come with the Atoma 400 plate, for a price slightly lower than the shaptons. <br /><br />Plus you get a shipment from Japan. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629772373033054526noreply@blogger.com